This Week in Startups

The Gadget That's Better in Crowds Than Your Phone + Ring’s Founder Before Amazon Bought It | E2349

October 12, 2026 80 min episode📝 Transcribed from the audio

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Key Moments

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How the Totem Compass works: pointing to friends in real time2:14

Carter demonstrates the device's physical design, compass-mode activation via IMU sensor, and how directional lights and crystal positioning show distance and location to multiple friends simultaneously.

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Why crowds break cell networks but improve mesh networks5:03

Carter explains the inverse physics: cell towers degrade under congestion, while mesh networks strengthen as more devices join, creating a self-reinforcing communication system.

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Lost Lands case study: 5,000 Totems, 330,000 messages, 1.5 kilometers range7:24

Real-world data from a 50k-person festival showing the mesh network's performance: 35 hops, 330k+ messages relayed over a weekend, 10% device penetration, all offline.

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Why phones are 5-15x worse at GPS accuracy than Totem in crowds11:29

Explanation of how phones layer GPS, cell triangulation, and Bluetooth signals but fail under congestion, versus Totem's pure GNSS approach achieving one-meter accuracy consistently.

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Why hardware founders raised more from customers than VCs: 1.6M crowdfunding vs 1.3M venture17:52

Breakdown of Totem's unconventional fundraising: pre-seed from angels (easier in 2026 as AI uncertainty grows), then $1.6M in crowdfunding—more capital than venture, a rare sign of early product-market fit.

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The garage incubator: Jamie Simonoff's path from failure to Ring48:56

Jamie explains his decision to hire two people, fund them himself, and tinker on multiple ideas until one worked. He stumbled on Ring when a guest asked for a WiFi doorbell and none existed.

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Mission as a business moat: 'Having a strong mission is cheating'1:02:45

Jamie argues that a clear mission (reduce crime in neighborhoods) eliminates distraction, keeps teams aligned, and prevents feature creep. It's a free competitive advantage.

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Why Jamie wouldn't sell Ring: public company vs acquisition trap1:08:40

Jamie states his goal has always been IPO, not exit, because buyers only care about EBITDA; they'd kill long-term product bets like his five-year, five-million-dollar R&D commitment.

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Angel investing: bet on your friends because you already know them1:12:21

Jason's principle: always back friends pursuing ventures because you have longitudinal knowledge of their character and persistence. You know they won't let the business die.

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The regretful uninvested friend: a 50-100x miss1:13:01

Jamie recounts a friend who almost backed Ring in the pre-seed round but pulled out at the last second. That $4M round is now worth an estimated 50–100x return, and it's a running joke between them.

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Summary

This Week in Startups episode 2349 features two segments: an interview with Carter Fowler, founder of Totem Labs, and a flashback to 2017 with Jamie Simonoff, founder of Ring doorbells. Totem has built a screen-free consumer device that uses mesh networking and GPS to help groups of people (at festivals, stadiums, and events) locate each other when cellular networks fail. The compass-shaped device works completely offline, uses GNSS positioning accurate to one meter, and communicates via peer-to-peer 2.4GHz protocol. Unlike phones, Totem's mesh network improves with more users in the area. In the second half, Simonoff recounts Ring's unconventional origin story—building the WiFi doorbell in his garage after struggling to find one—and his philosophy of using a strong mission statement ("make neighborhoods safer") to maintain focus and attract talent. Both segments explore how founders solve real problems through hands-on innovation, the challenges of raising capital for hardware and consumer products, and the tension between bold expansion and mission-driven focus.

Key Takeaways

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Mesh networks invert cell networks: performance improves with more devices, not degradation. Totem handled 330,000+ messages across 5,000 devices at Lost Lands with 35-hop connectivity purely offline.

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A clear, narrow mission is a competitive moat. It keeps teams focused, eliminates distraction, and attracts people who believe in the cause—Ring's "make neighborhoods safer" prevents mission creep better than any process.

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Consumer hardware succeeds when it solves an immediate, visceral problem. Totem solves the real experience of losing friends in crowds; Ring solved the founder's inability to hear his doorbell.

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Founder persistence through failure compounds returns. Jamie Simonoff's earlier ventures (Phone Tag, Unsubscribe.com) taught him focus and conviction; Ring became a multi-billion-dollar outcome by betting on mission over quick exits.

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GPS alone provides 5–15x better accuracy than phones in crowds, because phones rely on cell triangulation and other signals that fail under congestion. Totem strips this down to pure GNSS for reliability.

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Hardware companies can now compete on proprietary data and network effects. As software IP erodes, venture capital is rotating toward devices that generate defensible data moats and mesh-network effects.

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Rental and accessibility markets unlock hardware adoption without scale. Totem's rental model at theme parks and events (kids, families, people with disabilities) sidesteps the cold-start problem of ownership.

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Notable Quotes

“The more cell phones you get in an area, the worse they all work. The more totems you get in an area, the better they all work.”

— Carter Fowler

Core insight into why mesh networks are superior for high-density events; every additional device acts as a relay, inverting the problem of network congestion.

“I'm an inventor. I'm not an entrepreneur. I'm not a business person. I'm an inventor who wants to make a big impact. So I went in my garage, hired two people on my dime, and let all these ideas stew.”

— Jamie Simonoff

Reveals his founder identity; the garage incubator approach and focus on invention over immediate monetization led to Ring's breakthrough discovery.

“Having a strong mission is cheating. It makes it so easy to run the business and keep everyone on track. When you have a strong mission that people want to work for, nobody's saying 'let's do a pet feeder.' They know it's not our mission.”

— Jamie Simonoff

Articulates why mission-driven focus is a business lever, not just philosophy; prevents costly distraction and aligns incentives.

“People are really hungry for connection these days. But at the same time, companies like Live Nation are selling more tickets than ever. So people are clearly craving in-person immersive experience connecting with people in the real world.”

— Carter Fowler

Explains the cultural and business tailwind for Totem; post-pandemic appetite for IRL gathering creates a large addressable market.

Predictions

Totem will achieve meaningful penetration in family/theme-park rentals (Disney, stadiums) within 12–18 months, becoming a secondary revenue driver beyond music festivals.

— Carter Fowler · Confidence: high · 2026–2027

Predictive crowd-flow models will become a standard tool for event organizers, enabling pre-event simulation and optimization similar to air-traffic control.

— Carter Fowler · Confidence: medium · 2026–2027

Totem will eventually achieve satellite-independent positioning via dynamic trilateration and solar charging, creating a fully self-sustaining communication ecosystem.

— Carter Fowler · Confidence: medium · 2027+

Mission-driven hardware companies will continue to outcompete generic smart-home entrants because their focus prevents bloat and attracts both talent and customers.

— Jamie Simonoff (via philosophy) · Confidence: medium · Ongoing

Action Items

If you attend high-density events (festivals, concerts, stadiums) with friends, consider purchasing Totem compasses in a 4-pack ($300–365 range) to test offline connectivity and crew coordination.

Totem is field-proven at 50k+ attendee events; early adopter feedback is critical for hardware refinement and network effects.

As an angel investor, prioritize backing founders you know well and have observed over time, even if their current product is rough. Focus on founder persistence and vision alignment, not polish.

Jamie's journey (Phone Tag → Unsubscribe → Ring) and Fowler's conviction show that founder durability matters more than initial traction; friendship reduces information asymmetry.

Clarify your company's mission to a single, defensible statement (4–5 words). Test it by asking, "If someone proposes X feature, does it serve this mission?" Use it to ruthlessly prioritize and kill distractions.

Ring's "make neighborhoods safer" mission prevented feature creep and kept the team aligned; this is a free and powerful tool any founder can deploy immediately.

If you're building consumer hardware, explore rental and accessibility verticals as alternative go-to-market channels. These sidestep cold-start problems and generate usage data to improve product-market fit.

Totem's rental model for families/disabled users removes the barrier of $88–365 purchase price and builds network density without requiring high penetration rates upfront.

Monitor how venue partnerships and official integrations (like Totem + Lost Lands) differ from grassroots adoption. Use partnerships to seed critical density, then market-expand.

Totem achieved 10% penetration at Lost Lands through official integration; this proves the model and can be replicated at other festivals, reducing reliance on organic sales.