All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer

October 17, 2026 · 1 h 34 min

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In this episode, Ben Horowitz fills in for Friedberg as the All-In crew discusses several critical headwinds facing the AI trade. CoreWeave's bond yields spiked to 15% this week, triggering a 20% sell-off in neoclouds and sparking debate over whether the AI bubble is deflating or merely correcting. Chamath breaks down the company's "box" financing structure and argues they face a coin-flip default risk if borrowing costs stay elevated. Meanwhile, Anthropic's leaked investor day numbers—$16.8B quarterly revenue but potentially slowing growth—have mixed the IPO market ahead of their expected Thanksgiving debut at a $2T valuation. The crew also dissects Anthropic's latest psyop: claims that small AI-powered worms could self-replicate on IoT devices, which Sachs argues is fear-mongering designed to kneecap open-source models. Finally, they examine Bill Gates' doomerism on AI, diagnosing his motivations as a bid for relevance and control after his influence waned post-COVID. The conversation reveals a tension between genuine supply-driven tailwinds (GPU scarcity, sustained demand) and financial fragility (leverage, customer concentration, deflationary pricing pressure).

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() Ben Horowitz fills in for Friedberg!

() CoreWeave's debt selloff: did the AI bubble just pop?

() AI's deflationary impact: decompiled software

() Anthropic's investor day gets mixed reactions

() Psyop Corner: Anthropic warns about self-replicating models on IoT devices

() Understanding Bill Gates the Doomer

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https://x.com/chamath/status/2110128893680378299

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CRWV:NASDAQ

https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/article/yikes-coreweave-stock-tanks-on-bond-yield-woes-ceo-blames-market-acting-irrationally-203838274.html

https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/10/14/coreweave-falls-10-as-bond-yield-touches-15-and-elon-musk-says-yikes-nebius-drops-6-oracle-slips

https://polymarket.com/event/coreweave-announces-bankruptcy-by

https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/2109443893955567694

https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-10-14/anthropic-revenue-jumps-to-16-8-billion-in-quarter-before-ipo

https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai

https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks

https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2109849209742450696

https://www.anthropic.com/research/distillation-defenses

https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/2109412046244913643

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