
CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer
October 17, 2026 · 1 h 34 min
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In this episode, Ben Horowitz fills in for Friedberg as the All-In crew discusses several critical headwinds facing the AI trade. CoreWeave's bond yields spiked to 15% this week, triggering a 20% sell-off in neoclouds and sparking debate over whether the AI bubble is deflating or merely correcting. Chamath breaks down the company's "box" financing structure and argues they face a coin-flip default risk if borrowing costs stay elevated. Meanwhile, Anthropic's leaked investor day numbers—$16.8B quarterly revenue but potentially slowing growth—have mixed the IPO market ahead of their expected Thanksgiving debut at a $2T valuation. The crew also dissects Anthropic's latest psyop: claims that small AI-powered worms could self-replicate on IoT devices, which Sachs argues is fear-mongering designed to kneecap open-source models. Finally, they examine Bill Gates' doomerism on AI, diagnosing his motivations as a bid for relevance and control after his influence waned post-COVID. The conversation reveals a tension between genuine supply-driven tailwinds (GPU scarcity, sustained demand) and financial fragility (leverage, customer concentration, deflationary pricing pressure).
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Show notes
() Ben Horowitz fills in for Friedberg!
() CoreWeave's debt selloff: did the AI bubble just pop?
() AI's deflationary impact: decompiled software
() Anthropic's investor day gets mixed reactions
() Psyop Corner: Anthropic warns about self-replicating models on IoT devices
() Understanding Bill Gates the Doomer
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Referenced in the show:
https://x.com/chamath/status/2110128893680378299
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CRWV:NASDAQ
https://polymarket.com/event/coreweave-announces-bankruptcy-by
https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/2109443893955567694
https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027
https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai
https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks
https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2109849209742450696
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