
Lessons from Napoleon, Steve Jobs, Joan of Arc & Other Leaders | Ben Wilson
October 14, 2026 · 1 h 11 min
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Ben Wilson, host of "How to Take Over the World," joins David Senra to discuss the common traits of history's greatest leaders—Napoleon, Steve Jobs, Joan of Arc, Thomas Edison, and others—including vision, communication, focus, and obsession. The conversation explores how studying these figures reveals patterns: their unusual eating habits, intense eyes, and relentless determination. Wilson also shares his personal battle with stage four neuroendocrine cancer, diagnosed after months of dismissing symptoms. Despite a grim prognosis (zero percent five-year survival rate for his cancer stage), Wilson maintains a remarkable perspective grounded in faith and gratitude, emphasizing that he's lived a fortunate life. He discusses his current treatment with tarlatanab and explores emerging therapies like custom mRNA vaccines. Throughout, Wilson reflects on how historical figures' genuine belief in their missions drove their success, and he appeals for help—medical expertise, introductions, or donations—to support his family and advance cancer research.
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Show notes
Ben Wilson is the host of “How To Take Over The World,” which is one of my favorite podcasts. How To Take Over The World examines history’s greatest leaders and conquerors, and has benefited millions of people. In this episode, we talk about the common traits among the individuals he has studied such as Napoleon, Leonardo da Vinci, Joan of Arc, Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and more.
We also discuss the fact that Ben is battling advanced cancer.
He’s a good guy, a close friend, and one of my favorite podcasters. He has four young children.
Please watch this episode and see if you can help with medicine, introductions, or donations.
GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-ben-fight-cancer-support-his-treatment
Ben's email: ben@takeoverpod.com
() What Ben has learned from making How to Take Over the World and studying history’s greatest leaders.
() Living like you're dying. Ben on facing cancer.
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