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#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

March 26, 2025

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Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. Together they have written a new book titled Abundance that lays out a set of ideas for the future of the Democratic party.

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Abundance (new book): https://amzn.to/4iZ1S8J

Ezra’s X: https://x.com/ezraklein/

Ezra’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/ezraklein

Ezra’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/EzraKleinShow

The New York Times: https://nytimes.com/by/ezra-klein

Derek’s X: https://x.com/dkthomp

Plain English (podcast): https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompson

The Atlantic: https://theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/

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OUTLINE:

() – Introduction

() – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

() – Left-wing vs right-wing politics

() – Political leaders on the left and the right

() – Internal political divisions

() – AOC

() – Political realignment

() – Supply-side progressivism

() – Wealth redistribution

() – Housing problem

() – Regulation and deregulation

() – DOGE, Elon, and Trump

() – Sam Harris

() – Future of America

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