#474 – DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting
July 12, 2025
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David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH) is a legendary programmer, creator of Ruby on Rails, co-owner & CTO of 37signals that created Basecamp, HEY, & ONCE, and is a NYT-best-selling author (with Jason Fried) of 4 books: REWORK, REMOTE, Getting Real, and It Doesn’t Have To Be Crazy At Work. He is also a race car driver, including a class-winning performance at the 24 hour Le Mans race.
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EPISODE LINKS:
DHH’s X: https://x.com/dhh
DHH’s Website: https://dhh.dk/
Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
37signals: https://37signals.com/
DHH’s books:
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Remote: https://amzn.to/44GFJ91
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OUTLINE:
() – Introduction
() – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
() – Programming – early days
() – JavaScript
() – Google Chrome and DOJ
() – Ruby programming language
() – Beautiful code
() – Metaprogramming
() – Dynamic typing
() – Scaling
() – Future of programming
() – Future of AI
() – Vibe coding
() – Rails manifesto: Principles of a great programming language
() – Why managers are useless
() – Small teams
() – Jeff Bezos
() – Why meetings are toxic
() – Case against retirement
() – Hard work
() – Why we left the cloud
() – AWS
() – Owning your own servers
() – Elon Musk
() – Apple
() – Tim Sweeney
() – Fatherhood
() – Racing
() – Cars
() – Programming setup
() – Programming language for beginners
() – Open source
() – WordPress dra