Lex Fridman Podcast
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#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

July 23, 2025 · 2 h 35 min

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Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind and Nobel Prize winner for his groundbreaking work in protein structure prediction using AI.

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OUTLINE:

() – Introduction

() – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

() – Learnable patterns in nature

() – Computation and P vs NP

() – Veo 3 and understanding reality

() – Video games

() – AlphaEvolve

() – AI research

() – Simulating a biological organism

() – Origin of life

() – Path to AGI

() – Scaling laws

() – Compute

() – Future of energy

() – Human nature

() – Google and the race to AGI

() – Competition and AI talent

() – Future of programming

() – John von Neumann

() – p(doom)

() – Humanity

() – Consciousness and quantum computation

() – David Foster Wallace

() – Education and research

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