#482 – Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature
October 1, 2025 · 4 h 43 min
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Pavel Durov is the founder and CEO of Telegram.
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OUTLINE:
() – Introduction
() – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
() – Philosophy of freedom
() – No alcohol
() – No phone
() – Discipline
() – Telegram: Lean philosophy, privacy, and geopolitics
() – Arrest in France
() – Romanian elections
() – Power and corruption
() – Intense education
() – Nikolai Durov
() – Programming and video games
() – VK origins & engineering
() – Hiring a great team
() – Telegram engineering & design
() – Encryption
() – Open source
() – Edward Snowden
() – Intelligence agencies
() – Iran and Russia government pressure
() – Apple
() – Poisoning
() – Money
() – TON
() – Bitcoin
() – Two chairs dilemma
() – Children
() – Father
() – Quantum immortality
() – Kafka
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