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#493 – Jeff Kaplan: World of Warcraft, Overwatch, Blizzard, and Future of Gaming

March 11, 2026

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Jeff Kaplan is a legendary Blizzard game designer of World of Warcraft and Overwatch, now preparing to launch a new game, The Legend of California, from his new studio Kintsugiyama – available to wishlist on Steam today, with alpha later in March.

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OUTLINE:

() – Introduction

() – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

() – Early games: Pac-Man, Zork, Doom, Quake

() – Writing career – 170 rejection letters

() – EverQuest obsession

() – Getting hired at Blizzard

() – Lowest point in Jeff’s life

() – One of Us

() – Early Blizzard culture

() – Building World of Warcraft

() – How WoW changed video games

() – Single-player vs Multi-player

() – How Blizzard made great video games

() – Online toxicity

() – Why Titan failed

() – Overwatch in six weeks

() – Best Overwatch heroes

() – The challenge of matchmaking

() – Rust

() – Why Jeff left Blizzard

() – Diablo IV

() – Getting back to making video games

() – The Legend of California

() – Greatest video game of all time

() – AI and future of video games

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