Ben Affleck

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Zach Baron sits down with Ben Affleck at the Artists Equity offices in Los Angeles to discuss Animals, a film Affleck directs and stars in. He plays a mayoral candidate whose child is kidnapped, and Kerry Washington co-stars. It is being released in theaters and on Netflix on the same day. The conversation ranges well beyond the film. Affleck talks about tabloid culture's 'cultural amnesia,' how he deliberately built a life around being present for his kids, and how Artists Equity tries to treat talent and crew as investors who share in success. He also discusses losing both parents, two months apart. The most substantive stretch covers AI. Affleck explains how he built Interpositive, which was sold to Netflix. The company trained video models on a proprietary, natively captured filmmaking dataset rather than scraped work. He argues that generative video is expensive, stochastic and far from replacing filmmakers. He says AI 'doom' messaging is partly marketing, and that liability is a key safeguard. He disputes the reported $587 million sale figure. The throughline is equanimity. Affleck embraces his 'tarnished leading man' image as creatively freeing. He says unresolved relationships don't fix themselves with time, and that where you spend your days defines your life. He would turn down even a Nolan or Scorsese film to stay home. It is a candid, reflective portrait that often contradicts his public image.